Poll: Features & LOS

[Google Frog]

Just to clarify.

Does the top option mean that all features will be visible in situations identical to an enemy ground unit which is stealthed (not cloaked)?

[Saktoth]

This will require feature ghosting.

Until we have feature ghosting (ideally, they just stay on the map once you see them), id say stick with the old default.

[Google Frog]

I don't like how players can see whether their own wreck have been reclaimed. I would like ghosting as long as the state of the wreckages is not updated outside LOS.

[SirMaverick]

I don't like how players can see whether their own wreck have been reclaimed.

+1

I like spring default ("old default"). Ghosted wreckage would not break area reclaim for known wreckage. Everything else does.

[Google Frog]

I'd vote for the bottom option but I think it's a subset of the top one. Of course ghosting is good but I like LOS enough to do without it temporarily.

[Saktoth]

I made the last one because i dont want LoS-visible features until we have ghosting. All-visible is better than that.

[CarRepairer]

Replying to Saktoth:

I made the last one because i dont want LoS-visible features until we have ghosting. All-visible is better than that.

Hmmm. I am torn. I hate always visible features, but I hate not having ghosting. I think the former is more "wrong" and the latter is just "annoying and needs to be added asap." A wrong feature is worse than being annoyed by missing feature. So I am more with Googlefrog.

[luckywaldo7]

Hmmm. I am torn.

My exact feelings :/

Although I have to side a little more with Saktoth; on maps like desert triad and tangerine it gives people who have familiarity with the map a big advantage over those who don't, because they know where the reclaim rocks are at.

[luckywaldo7]

The "it" referring to normal los without ghosting. Although I guess I am assuming that map features will be ghosted automatically.

[CarRepairer]

Replying to luckywaldo7:

The "it" referring to normal los without ghosting. Although I guess I am assuming that map features will be ghosted automatically.

If not, this can be lua'd (give brief vision of all features at the start of the game). But it would be nicer if the engine just did it.

[KingRaptor]

Winner: LoS with non-updating ghosting (46%)